Monday, August 14, 2006

Utah, TCU, and BYU

 

 

From: Limburg, Garth
Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2006 12:44 PM
To: 'Kevin Curtis'; bruceg@chpdc.com; 'Darin Curtis'; 'Nevin Limburg'; records@aros.net; tijis311@gmail.com; dmx311@gmail.com; kmcmullin@commercecrg.com
Cc: MikeCu@schiffnutrition.com; tsgale@mstar.net
Subject: RE: Utah, TCU, and BYU

 

This is a classic!  It will go into my book of remembrance, but as Harry Truman would say, “No comment!”

 

From: Kevin Curtis [mailto:klcbrazil@cascadeaccess.com]
Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2006 11:40 AM
To: bruceg@chpdc.com; Limburg, Garth; 'Darin Curtis'; 'Nevin Limburg'; records@aros.net; tijis311@gmail.com; dmx311@gmail.com; kmcmullin@commercecrg.com
Cc: MikeCu@schiffnutrition.com; tsgale@mstar.net
Subject: Re: Utah, TCU, and BYU

 

Garth,

 

Your words have, indeed, humbled me.  You have stirred me up to a remembrance of my duty.  I opened the scriptures and found, immediately, Mosiah 27:14.....And again, the angel said: Behold the Lord hath heard the prayers of his people, and also the prayers of his servant, Garth, who is thy friend and King of the Crimson Club; for he has prayed with much faith concerning thee that thou mightest be brought to the knowledge of the Ute truth; therefore, for this purpose have I come to convince thee of the power and authority of Rice-Eccles Stadium and the Huntsman Center, that the prayers of those servants might be answered according to their 'one game at a time' and 'Utah by 5' faith"..................

 

Initially, this scripture moved me..........but then.........like so many before me..........I allowed myself NOT to be deceived.  I recalled, with great clarity and joyousness.........the day my eyes were opened, the day I transferred to Brigham Young University.  Then the visions came.............I saw Ronald Reagan, early in life, a democrat............who eventually saw the light and became perhaps the greatest Republican, and greatest President ever.  I saw the genuine and likable Jeff Judkins, one of the most beloved Utes of all time, being chased out of SLC by Big Rick (with a raised finger of scorn in one hand and a double-cheeseburger in the other).  I saw further how good Judkins looked in blue.  By this time......the visions were coming with lightening speed and comprehension....I saw many LDS apostles and prophets, several with U of U degrees, traveling to Provo to speak in devotionals, firesides, etc.....while many Ute professors continued, in that large and spacious building, to laugh, to scorn, to mock, to ridicule those leaders for their beliefs, for their conservatism, for their willingness to TAKE A STAND in a sea of liberal and moral relativism.

 

I saw many years of Ute dominance in basketball......I saw a coaching change and even though the sweet 16 was a marvelous goal achieved the first year, behold, the unbelievers, the mumblers, the grumblers........are not renewing season tickets.  Once great faith so easily torn, so easily abandoned.  Meanwhile, the other great vision opened up........years of titles under LaVell followed by a recent drought of 4 seasons without more wins than losses and how the Cougar faithful, unlike their Lamanite brethren to the north, continue to fill the stadium, continue to have the faith, continue to bring 60,000 strong not only for USC and Notre Dame, but also Tulsa and San Diego State, all this, while never needing to compromise with a Ute-buy-one-ticket-get-one-free plan, in order to fill the great and spacious Rice-Eccles in front of ESPN cameras.

 

I saw the great and wise prophet, Chris Hill, pondering the dilemma, years ago, of catching up in football.   I heard the shrieks and cries from the Crimson Club, "Behold, DO NOT hire any BYU guys".  But the wise servant Ronnie Mac brought Fred Whittingham on board.  He allowed players to leave 2 years for missions.  He brought Fred's son, Kyle on board, who begat other Polynesian Cougars, who begat others.......until...........the struggling Utes had figured out how to win 9 out of 13 from "the school down south". 

 

I saw the cheers and shouts of joy in Rice-Eccles when the CATHOLIC came, preaching one game at a time.  Indeed, he won them all his second year and, like Moses, led a mass exodus out of Sandy and Midvale to Phoenix, where his team demolished the Panthers in a wonderful BCS display of "don't ever forget the little guys".  But alas, even the great CATHOLIC was lured away by demons and false prophets to the land of humidity and gators.  What to do now?  The scriptures were clear.  The years of false lessons taught by Lamanite Fathers were disbanded.  Bring the 4-year All-WAC Cougar to be the Chief Judge over the people, even Kyle Whittingham.  Kyle had listened to the pleas of his mother and brothers, admonishing him to become the Chief Judge in Provo.....but in the end, the Prophet Hill offered more gold cubes and Kyle himself heard the pleas and cries from the faithful servants Garth, Matt, Nevin, and others.......and ascended to the Chief Judge throne, along the sideline.

 

The vision closed, but I did catch glimpses of generations......grandchildren and great grandchildren, with the last names of Limburg and Gunderson..and certainly Curtis........rising and shouting on gameday in Provo......for futue years and multiple dispensations, generation after generation.....all realizing the goodness of their fathers Bruce and Garth, but nevertheless, seeing cleary, the errors of their ways.

 

In the end, Garth, I thank you and the others for your patience with me.  I continue to hold out faith we will beat Utah in SLC this year and I'll continue to ponder and search the Crimson Club scriptures.......but it will take many more Ute prayers, and perhaps even a Ute wife............to yank me back to my youth, to those lost days, wandering in the wilderness wearing way too much red.

 

Lo and behold, I bring now a conclusion to my words and offer them up as a witness to Ted Bundy, Mark Hoffman and other former Utes.

 

Jeff Holland

 

 

----- Original Message -----

From: Bruce

Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2006 8:50 AM

Subject: RE: Utah, TCU, and BYU

 

Amen, I believe!

-----Original Message-----
From: Limburg, Garth [mailto:Garth.Limburg@slcgov.com]
Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2006 9:44 AM
To: bruceg@chpdc.com; Kevin Curtis; Darin Curtis; Nevin Limburg; records@aros.net; tijis311@gmail.com; dmx311@gmail.com; kmcmullin@commercecrg.com
Cc: MikeCu@schiffnutrition.com; tsgale@mstar.net
Subject: RE: Utah, TCU, and BYU

I can testify to the truth of what Bruce (Elder King) just said.  Back in those days Kevin would stand outside my house on Holloway Drive and with tears rolling down his cheeks testify how he knew the Utes were true and were the one and only true basketball team.  To him Jack Gardner and then Bill Foster were prophets.  I still have letters he wrote to me when I was in Holland encouraging me to stay true to the Utes!  I have.  He sadly fell away.  I have spent many painful nights pleading with the almighty that he would make a come back (ala Alma).  I believe it will happen some day on the road from Provo to Salt Lake.  But we must all be patient with Kevin.  As for his experience with the liberal prof at the U we all experienced that but it seems to have strengthened our resolve to think more clearly and be better.  As many of you know, I spent two years at BYU earning a masters degree and I had professors who were so conservative and stitched up tight that if I had stayed there any longer I would have ended up working for presidential hopeful McGovern (just to annoy them) rather than follow my high school buddy Karl Rove and be a state delegate for Ronald Reagan. 

 

Jerry Pimm

 

From: Bruce [mailto:bruceg@chpdc.com]
Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2006 9:21 AM
To: 'Kevin Curtis'; 'Darin Curtis'; 'Nevin Limburg'; Limburg, Garth; records@aros.net; tijis311@gmail.com; dmx311@gmail.com; kmcmullin@commercecrg.com
Cc: MikeCu@schiffnutrition.com; tsgale@mstar.net
Subject: RE: Utah, TCU, and BYU

 

Listen, Kevin was fine when Garth and I left town in the 1971.  His red testimony was strong and his dedication to sending us articles each week on the Ute success and Tommy Hudspeth and Brian Who failures was unequalled.  It was in our absence that his falling away took place.  It wasn't long before he was in a complete state of apostasy.  But, he has now agreed to take the lessons again from Garth and I on the day of the Ute Cougar game each year.

 

Elder King

-----Original Message-----
From: Kevin Curtis [mailto:klcbrazil@cascadeaccess.com]
Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2006 8:51 AM
To: Darin Curtis; Nevin Limburg; Garth.Limburg@slcgov.com; records@aros.net; bruceg@chpdc.com; tijis311@gmail.com; dmx311@gmail.com; kmcmullin@commercecrg.com
Cc: MikeCu@schiffnutrition.com; tsgale@mstar.net
Subject: Re: Utah, TCU, and BYU

Nevin,

 

Darin, though concise and thorough, failed to mention that inspite of the liberal leanings of arrogant Ute faculty (I had a prof. there whose feet never came off the desk, whose pipe never came out of his mouth, whose criticisms of Mormons and conservatives never ceased)........ even Curtis brothers and sisters who didn't defect to Provo..........still.......would rather listen to Rush Limbaugh than George Clooney or Hillary.  We have uncles who attended Skyline High School, USU and the U who make Al Gore look conservative!   We love them though........just can't understand their thinking.  Similar to Curtis Utes baffled at the Y degrees held by Kevin and Paige...........LOL

 

Governor Romney

 

P.S.  The Kool-Aid, Honor Code-enforced, was caffeine free...................

----- Original Message -----

From: Darin Curtis

Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2006 11:26 PM

Subject: Re: Utah, TCU, and BYU

 

Nevin

 

Don't try to understand the Curtis family.  If there is one thing you might understand it is that, genetically speaking, we never stood a chance.  Think about that, we are the offspring of Blaine and Claudia.  Kevin, of all people, is the "birthright" holder.  Just be happy that we can, for the most part, feed ourselves and occasionally bumble our way to victory in the great game of life. 

 

Kevin is the only zoobie defect although Paige did join him in Provo, but she never drank the Kool Aid.  The rest of us can be spotted wearing red on Saturdays in the Autumn. 

 

As far as your question about my presence in bella italia, I am a Naval Aviator who is currently flying a desk for NATO in the lovely town of Naples.  It will be a three year tour complete with an office full of Germans, Italians, French, Polish, Greek etc NATO officers.  "NATO" by the way, stands for "Never At The Office." 

 

It has been a fun year so far in Italy, but I do find it difficult to follow the Utes from afar.  I'm afraid that I am reduced to Internet write ups following the games and the occasional MWC game on the armed forces tv network.  The only basketball game I saw last year was a pathetic effort against Arizona and the only football I caught was the bowl game... a not so pathetic effort. 

 

I think Whittinghams boys are going to be a handful this year.  Not to the degree that they were in 2004, but a handful nonetheless.  Giacolleti's boys?  Not so sure.  My jury is still out on that guy but I am willing to let him get his own players in his own system.  Suffice to say that so far, I am not particularly impressed.  I would give his product a C- but then I only saw the Arizona game. 

 

About six weeks to go boys.  My favorite time of year approaches. 

 

Ungratefully

 

Darin

Nevin Limburg <nevinlimburg@hotmail.com> wrote:

Darin:

This is Nevin Limburg, one of the infamous Limburg clan from the old Valley
View 9th Ward, and brother of Garth and Matt. I think you are right on with
your perspective from Southern Italy, at least I hope so. Let's also not
forget the TWO-GAME ending to the Utes season last year---Georgia Tech and
BYU...going into Cougar Country in November with an untested quarterback
starting his first Div. I game and looking like a combination of Vince Young
and Matt Linert. Then against one of the best defenses in the US in GT,
dominating on both sides of the ball. This year the Utes boast the only
preseason MWC Ist Team all American candidate in Eric Weddle, the deepest
quarterback position in the country, and an offensive line that averages
more than 300 lbs. The Y will be good---great on offence, improved on
defense, and I hope they beat TCU . The U gets TCU, BYU, and Colo. St. all
at home this year, and you know how good they were at home last
year---opps---I was thinking of 2004---they lost key games at home last year
against New Mexico and SDS. Should be a fun and interesting season.

By they way, can someone please inform me about all these Curtises---there's
Kevin, a die-hard BYU fan and respecter of persons Ute prosnosticator whose
writings I always enjoy; there's Mike, a Ute from what I can gather, and now
Darin, who I am hearing from in these emails for the first time, and who
sounds like a Ute, talks like a Ute, and maybe even acts like one. What
were the roots with this family? And Darin, what do ye in Italy? A
Mission? Work? Idolizing the beautiful women? Becoming a Gladiator?

Your friend and Brother, "Let another season begin!"

Nevin


>From: Darin Curtis
>To: Kevin Curtis , "Limburg, Garth"
>, Nevin Limburg ,
>Sales , bruceg@chpdc.com, Tijs Limburg
>, Eric Limburg , "Kyle L. McMullin"
>
>CC: Mike Curtis , DNACurtis@yahoo.com, Sandra
>Gale
>Subject: Re: Utah, TCU, and BYU
>Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2006 06:30:13 -0700 (PDT)
>
>The unspoken point here is that the Utes are ticked off at themselves for
>letting some of those games get away. TCU especially comes to mind (I
>suspect BYU feels the same on that one). I was (and am) 8 time zones away,
>but from what I can recall, the only real ugly game for the Utes was SDSU.
>Anyway, to sum up what I am trying to say, I think the Utes are hungry,
>angry at themselves for some disappointments last year, and slightly dissed
>in the expectations department. This is a dangerous combination that
>Georgia Tech received the full brunt of last December.
>
> Here is my suspicion (prediction): Like the Liberty Bowl in 2003
>launched the 2004 Utes, last years bowl game in the liberal Mecca against
>Georgia Tech was a statement. I'm not saying the Utes will go undefeated,
>but I wouldn't want to line up against them this year. This will be
>another banner year ending in a top ten ranking. I love the third place
>prediction by the sports fishwraps. If only I could get excited about Utah
>basketball again?
>
> Do you think I can get the MWC game-of-the-week in Southern Italy?
>
> Beloved Brethren
>
> Start off slowly, then ease off.
>
> K. Upshaw
>
>
>Kevin Curtis wrote:
> st1\:* { BEHAVIOR: url(#default#ieooui) }
>Interesting stuff................but who is Phil Steele? I have to chuckle
>at "anybody" who says a 4-4 team was "arguably the best in the MWC",
>particularly when the team who won it was 8-0. We can bemoan close games
>and bad calls and missed calls all we want............but 8-0 TCU was
>arguably and definitively the best team. When all the games ended they had
>more points.
>
> Weren't the Utah Jazz arguably the best NBA team this year.........they
>finished .500 too? And while we're there, what about USC? They dominated
>Texas for most of the game and "arguably" were the best
>team................which is why.............sports are fun. Fans line up
>to claim championships.........even when the other team has the trophy.
>
> And, it seems, too, AncientUte is already dusting the trophy shelf for
>this year..............how scary.........he actually thinks like a BYU fan
>(optimistic beyond measure)....................LOL.............
>
> LaVell
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Limburg, Garth
> To: Nevin Limburg ; Sales ; Kevin Curtis ; bruceg@chpdc.com ; Tijs
>Limburg ; Eric Limburg ; Kyle L. McMullin
> Sent: Monday, July 17, 2006 1:20 PM
> Subject: Utah, TCU, and BYU
>
>
> Using Phil Steele to Compare Utah, TCU, and BYU… Posted By:
>AncientUte
>Date: Monday 17 July 2006, at 01:52 pm
>Message Rating: 3
> Well, since it’s official now, and both TCU and the Y are picked ahead
>of our beloved Utes (heh, heh, heh), here’s why I REALLY like our chances
>against them this season. I am going to use quotations from Phil Steele’s
>2006 College Football Preview, because I think he states very well the way
>I feel about this. So here are the quotes:
> The Utes were arguably the best team in the MWC last season, but did not
>take home the title. Everything went TCU’s way last season and they
>finished with an unbeaten MWC record and an overall 11-1 mark. The thing
>that concerns me about this year’s Frog squad is how fortunate they were
>last season. They benefited from +21 in turnovers, +5 net close wins, and
>they meet the criteria for both my offensive and defensive “Yards Per Point
>(YPP) Factor” [which states that teams with a low YPP tend to have a weaker
>record the next season]. With just 12 starters back, odds are they will not
>be as fortunate as last season, but it still should be another outstanding
>year.
>
>Surprisingly, the Utes finished the 2005 season at 4-4 despite outgaining
>MWC foes by a league best 86.5 YPG. That was an inexperienced Utah team
>which had the 2nd fewest returning starters in the MWC. This year they have
>the most returning starters (13), have the deepest QB spot in the NCAA, and
>come in with my #2-rated offense and #2-rated defense (in the MWC). They
>also get key games vs TCU and BYU at home.
>
>In my 2004 preview, 4 of my 7 sets of power ratings called for the Utes to
>have an unbeaten season and not only did they achieve that, they became the
>first non-BCS team to make it to one of the BCS bowls (where they dominated
>Pitt 35-7 in the Fiesta Bowl). This season, 3 of my 7 power ratings call
>for the Utes to go unbeaten overall (much like 2004), so it could be
>another special season.
>
>The BYU Coogers outgained league foes by 59.8 YPG last year, the third in
>the league and finished 5-3 in the MWC despite having 2 net close losses.
>This year, BYU has the most explosive offense (my #1 rated) in the MWC and
>the defense should remain healthier. While they have tough road games (TCU,
>AF, Colo. St., Utah), they will make some noise in an ever-improving
>conference.
>
>
>Phil Steele’s Predicted Order of Finish:
>1. Utah
>2. TCU
>3. BYU
>4. San Diego St.
>5. Colorado St.
>6. UNLV
>7. Air Force
>8. Wyoming
>9. New Mexico
>
>
>
>
>
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